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MatPlus.Net Forum Twomovers Promotion to a black king - what is the exact source?
 
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(1) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Monday, Feb 21, 2011 14:14]

Promotion to a black king - what is the exact source?


In an article I wrote on my website[1] I gave a promotion to a black king without remembering the exact source. I would love to re-use the position for my book. In the meantime, the position also was given by Lubomir Kavalek in the Huffington Post last year[2], but also without the source. I gave KAL Kubbel as author which seems correct, seeing Huffington Post gives Leonid Kubbel, who are the same person.

(= 6+1 )

Leonid Kubbel
source? (Deutsche Schachzeitung 1923???)
Mate in 2

1.e8bK!! Kd8 2.Qd7 mate

[1] http://sh-kunstschach.eu/start/kuriositaeten/unterverwandlungen001.htm
[2] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lubomir-kavalek/chess-solutions-weird-pro_b_680681.html
 
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(2) Posted by Joost de Heer [Monday, Feb 21, 2011 19:02]

In Schaakcuriosa, the year is given as 1941, but no source.
 
 
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(3) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Monday, Feb 21, 2011 20:23]

Thanks, I have the German version of that book - Schach-Besonderheiten - but lent it to someone and didn't get it back yet. It's a great book!
 
   
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(4) Posted by Michal Dragoun [Monday, Feb 21, 2011 21:12]

Russian book "Izbrannyje zadači L. I. Kubbelja" (Selected problems of L. I. Kubbel, compiled by A. Baturin and O. Kubbel, Moscow 1958) gives only year 1941 too. According to introduction was this whole book based mostly on prepared material by the late L. I. Kubbel (two notebooks) and additions are marked by an asterisk. This joke problem has no asterisk. So maybe was composed in 1941 and published later (even 1958 in this book)?
 
   
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(5) Posted by Bojan Basic [Monday, Feb 21, 2011 23:21]; edited by Bojan Basic [11-02-21]

Here are two more problems with the same idea.

B. Polushkin, ???(= 4+2 )
#2

Solution: 1.d8=bK S~ 2.Qd7#

Andreij Nikolajewitsch Dikusarow, ???(= 4+2 )
#2

Solution: rotate the board for 180º, then 1.d8=bK Kc8 2.Bc6#
 
   
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(6) Posted by Joost de Heer [Thursday, Feb 24, 2011 22:42]; edited by Joost de Heer [11-02-24]

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(7) Posted by Mario Richter [Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 15:48]

Joost> In Schaakcuriosa, the year is given as 1941, but no source.

@Joost: Are you referring to the book or to Krabbe's website? If you are referring to the book, then in which chapter does the reference to the above problem appear?

Btw., Kubbel's problem is also given (without source and year) in Archakov's book "Shakhmatnaya Mozaika" as position 389. According to Archakov this was one of Kubbel's last creations: "Эта задача-шутка принадлежит нашему соотечественнику Л.И. Куббелю и является одной из последних его составлений." So 1941 sounds reasonable.
 
   
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(8) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 20:04]

Unless it will be proven otherwise, I give the 1958 source and say it was composed in 1941. Thanks to everyone!
 
 
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(9) Posted by Joost de Heer [Saturday, Feb 26, 2011 22:51]

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@Joost: Are you referring to the book or to Krabbe's website? If you are referring to the book, then in which chapter does the reference to the above problem appear?

I'm talking about the original Dutch publication of Schaakcuriosa. It's in chapter 2 (Rondom 6 c8T!), page 33, diagram 34. See http://sanguis.xs4all.nl/schaakcuriosa.jpg for a scan.

(Yes, I'm aware that diagram 33 isn't by Kraemer, but by Palkoska)
 
   
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(10) Posted by Michal Dragoun [Monday, Feb 28, 2011 19:29]

As support for publication in 1958 I found reproduction in book Malá encyklopedie šachu (Small encyclopedia of chess), Praha, Bratislava 1985, where is given as source book Izbrannyje zadači L. I. Kubbela 1958.
 
 
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