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(1) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Sunday, May 15, 2022 18:12] |
Graz helpmate definition (= 3+2 )
(HR, Demo) GH in 2
Yesterday in Lüneburg we had a small discussion
about the definition of GH. Is the interpretation below correct?
In any GH variant, both mating moves must be present.
This means that...
Qd4 b7 Qg7#/Qa1 (b8Q#) is a solution
Qg4 b7 Qg7#/Qc8 (bc8Q#) is a solution
Qh3 b7 ???/Qc8 is irrelevant as Black has no mate
Qg3 b7 Qg7/??? is irrelevant as White has no mate
Qf6# is also irrelevant for the same reason |
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(2) Posted by seetharaman kalyan [Sunday, May 15, 2022 18:56] |
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(3) Posted by shankar ram [Sunday, May 15, 2022 19:27] |
Your interpretation is correct. Black should have the option to #1/h#1 in the same move.
See this article for a review of such reciprocal stipulations: https://juliasfairies.com/reciprocal-stipulations-nsr/ |
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(4) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Sunday, May 15, 2022 21:55] |
That's interesting: It means that there is, no, not only a
Graz mate etc. (already exists), but also a specific
generalized Graz try:
Combine any two (or more) stipulations which must be fulfillable
in the last move/move pair, then you can insert tries
where one stipulation is NOT fulfilled.
Random example: Shortest game where White can mate and
stalemate with his last move.
Obviously, this greatly reduces the chance of cooks. |
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(5) Posted by Joost de Heer [Sunday, May 15, 2022 22:19] |
What's the diffenrence between reci-h# and Grazer h#? |
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(6) Posted by shankar ram [Monday, May 16, 2022 00:29] |
No difference. Two names for the same thing. |
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