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MatPlus.Net Forum General FIDE Albums in 21st Century
 
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(21) Posted by Harry Fougiaxis [Monday, Apr 2, 2007 08:23]

Submitting the entries via email would be a huge burden for the directors, since they should then print the sheets by themselves, isn't it so? Am I missing something here?
 
 
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(22) Posted by Frank Richter [Monday, Apr 2, 2007 09:46]

Siegfried Hornecker wrote:
Since around 60 studies of mine were published from 2004 to 2006 (of which I think, the most are not bad) I will have to send more than 200 sheet of paper from germany to the netherlands.

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No. It is clearly written in the announcement:
"Composers are invited to submit their highest-quality compositions for selection for this Album. Entry is open to compositions published during the years 2004-2006. Those who published large numbers of compositions during this period are strongly urged to make a selection consisting of only their very best work."
In my opinion there should be a maximal number of compositions by composer and section.
 
   
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(23) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Monday, Apr 2, 2007 13:32]; edited by Sarah Hornecker [07-04-02]

@Frank Richter:
I sorted those out that wouldn't have a chance to appear there but still these much remained.

To handicap people who compose a lot would clearly be against the spirit of composition!

By the way, I plan to be grandmaster in 2030 and international judge in 2020. :-)



Ok, if you want, you can give me advice on which studies to send in.



@Harry Fougiaxis:
I don't understand why printed sheets are necessary at all. Please explain!

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PS (reply to your post below): I still don't understand. They can look it at the computer with PGN and use the problem as given by the composers. The composers also could send a PDF file with the diagrams and solutions. Wouldn't that work if it is in the correct format? Why do you need a printed version?
 
   
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(24) Posted by Harry Fougiaxis [Monday, Apr 2, 2007 15:10]

Simply sending in the entries via email is not sufficient and cannot work by itself. Unless and until a computerized database for the submission of the entries is established, where the composers could enter the problems and their solutions by themselves, I can't see any practical system, other than the traditional one that is followed now, that could work efficiently.
 
   
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(25) Posted by Harry Fougiaxis [Monday, Apr 2, 2007 21:15]

PGN is used practically by study composers only, if I'm not mistaken. PDF is partially adequate, since you should have a commercial application to create such a file (I don't think there is any freeware printer driver). So, MS Word seems to be the best compromise (I can hear the Linux users complaining in the corner...) Take also note that the file(s) submitted by the composers should be edited by the director who has to assign numbers to them and check for duplicates (thus, pdf is again excluded).

However, the most limiting factor is that handling so much material via emails, attachments and hundreds of files can be confusing and tiresome for the directors and judges. You should be very well self-organised, so that not miss something. And my own experience as album judge: even if I'm quite keen in computers, I always prefer to study printed material; this way, I can easily take notes, write down remarks, classify themes, etc. I guess that switching to a database, where you can easily browse and edit the records, is equivalent and it would be welcome by most of the (computer literate) judges.
 
   
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(26) Posted by Juraj Lörinc [Monday, Apr 2, 2007 22:21]

I concur to the Harry's remark about paper versions of problems. Having spent literally months with more than 1200 submitted fairies to FIDE Album 1998-2000, I have written thousands of remarks on these papers. Moreover I have sorted them by various criteria, not easily definable in computer database. And that in the situation when I am probably one of more computer literate chess composers... :-) I print problems and play with them even when I judge tourney with only tens of problems competing. Paper will still be useful for years from now.
 
   
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(27) Posted by Harry Fougiaxis [Friday, Jun 1, 2007 12:48]

It seems that FA 1998-2000 will be eventually available in September.

http://www.phenix-echecs.fr/articles/FIDE/AlbumFIDE_9800/AF1998-2000.html
 
 
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(28) Posted by Yochanan Afek [Friday, Jun 1, 2007 19:46]

Dear Siegfried,

Hopefully those carefully analysed economical arguments would evenyually persuade you to sharpen your sense of self-criticism and to really try to select only the highly worthy candidates for the Album competition, namely those which have real chance to qualify the rather narrow section of endgame studies.
On the more general level of the discussion the time indeed has come to adjust the never ending business of the albums to the standards of the 21st century with the assistance of the modern technology. I am confident that many of us would be ready to give a hand to our older colleagues to enter the album process by the new standards and to enjoy seeing their compositions in the book (and hopefully also their titles) while they are still alive and kicking.
 
 
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(29) Posted by Iļja Ketris [Saturday, Jun 2, 2007 01:53]

PDF generation is not a big issue. OpenOffice.org suite can produce PDFs just fine, and it's free.
 
   
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(30) Posted by David Knezevic [Thursday, Jun 7, 2007 13:07]

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Ilja: OpenOffice.org suite can produce PDFs just fine, and it's free.


OpenOffice.org (OOo) can do much more. Thanks to Ilja I downloaded and installed it - and it looks impressive. I think that in the future I will use OOo Writer for producing Mat Plus. The first issue I did (and I am doing the second) with MS Word, but it is, as far as I'm concerned, far from suitable for magazine type layouts. OOo Writer seems to be much more comfortable, a real desktop publishing application with good control over styles, sections, pages, frames, headers/footers, tables, footnotes, objects, indexes etc. - one just need a little practice. Direct export to PDF is very simple. Besides Writer, OOo contains good Spreadsheet, Drawing, Presentation and Database applications, and more. I recommend it to everybody!

One warning: after downloading a 108 MB file I had problems with the instalation of the package including JRE (Java Runtime Environment), as a matter of fact it couldn't be installed it at all on any of my machines. I saw on OOo Forum that many other users had the same problem. Then I decided to download a 97 MB version without JRE and installation went smoothly. So my advice to anybody who wants to try the OpenOffice is to download the smaller version first (the one without "_wJRE" at end of filename). JRE can be obtained and installed from different sources anyway.
 
   
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(31) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Thursday, Jun 7, 2007 13:19]

I advice downloading from the mirrors linked on the official website:
http://www.openoffice.org/ - english
http://de.openoffice.org/ - german
http://fr.openoffice.org/ - french
etc

If it is slow there a reliable website should be used (not any unknown websites).
 
   
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(32) Posted by Frank Richter [Thursday, Jun 7, 2007 15:19]; edited by Frank Richter [07-06-07]

A book like the FIDE Album should be produced using really "database publishing". Writing programs like OpenOffice and Word may be very useful to create letters or small journals, but a publication with such a stringent structure like the Album is a clear "use case" for reading the entries, points and index words from a database and put it in a simple layout template.
It seems to be quite simple to realize such a workflow (may be using even Tex or Latex). But who likes to do such a work?
 
 
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