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MatPlus.Net Forum Promenade FIDE Olympic tournaments in composing
 
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(1) Posted by Rauf Aliovsadzade [Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 00:07]

FIDE Olympic tournaments in composing


Kenan Velikhanov has asked me to post a question,here it is:
Officially,how the FIDE Olympic composing tournaments' 1st prize winners should be called:Olympic champions,or just winners?
 
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(2) Posted by Andrey Selivanov [Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 05:16]

Of course, only winners Olympic tournaments.
 
 
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(3) Posted by Rauf Aliovsadzade [Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 14:23]

Андрей!
Спасибо за отклик!
 
   
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(4) Posted by Diyan Kostadinov [Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 15:12]; edited by Diyan Kostadinov [16-06-12]

Hm... I never thought about it before.
The chess is not an official Olympic sport but according wikipedia we can see following: "The governing bodies of the following sports, though not contested in the Olympic Games, are recognized by the IOC: chess..."

So IOC recognized FIDE to organize such an event as Chess Olympics. The FIDE Olympic tourney in composing is an official FIDE and Chess Federation of Azerbaijan tourney coordinated with the WFCC Presidium and is a part of the joint efforts by FIDE and WFCC for the popularization and development of chess composition worldwide.

And now I understand that the winners of this official FIDE Olympic tourney are not Olympic champions of our sport/art (chess composition)?? So this tourney is with fake name!? Why you call it officially Olympic when after that say that the the winners are not such champions?
How you call this "the joint efforts by FIDE and WFCC for the popularization and development of chess composition worldwide" if you not respected your own tourney and the participants???

First many composers was not allowed to participate because main genres as Fairies and Retros was not included in the tourney and now we understand that also the name is fake!? Hm...
 
   
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(5) Posted by Kenan Velikhanov [Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 16:03]

I think that,all Olympic tournaments' winners (in any sport) should be called Olympic champions (because of the significance of these competitions),while in all other major sporting events first spot takers may be called simply winners.
 
   
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(6) Posted by seetharaman kalyan [Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 18:37]

I think it is not legal to use the word "Olympic" before the name of any tourney conducted by FIDE or any other body. Prior approval of International Olympic Association is necessary. In the case of composing tournaments I think Internation Olympic body is probably just ignoring the violation.
 
   
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(7) Posted by Kenan Velikhanov [Saturday, Jun 11, 2016 18:55]

I mean composers - winners of the Olympic tournament, as well as in other sports must obtain the status of the Olympic champion. Moreover, the tournament is organized at the initiative of FIDE and WFCC.
 
   
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(8) Posted by Andrey Selivanov [Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 00:45]

From the encyclopedia: "Olympic champion — the winner of the summer or winter Olympic games".
In our case it is the "winner of the FIDE Olympic Tournament in Composing 2016".
 
 
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(9) Posted by Andrey Selivanov [Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 00:46]

From the encyclopedia: "Olympic champion — the winner of the summer or winter Olympic games".
In our case it is the "winner of the FIDE Olympic Tournament in Composing 2016".
 
   
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(10) Posted by Diyan Kostadinov [Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 02:49]; edited by Diyan Kostadinov [16-06-12]

Yes, nobody says that the Chess Olympiad or the Olympic tourney in composing is the same as the Olympic Games, it is obvious - the chess is not an Olympic sport.

But how you call the winners of the World Chess Olympiad - Olympic champions or just winner of the Chess Olympiad? If they are also called just winners - please, accept my apologise for this misunderstanding. But if the winners of the Chess Olympiad are called Olympic champions, so why this should be different for the chess composition?
 
   
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(11) Posted by Andrey Selivanov [Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 06:32]

Those who win at chess Olympiad-winners of the world chess Olympiads. Karpov and Kasparov were world Champions and multiple winners of the World chess Olympiads. This can be found in Wikipedia.
 
   
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(12) Posted by Diyan Kostadinov [Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 18:16]

Thanks Andrey. It's clear now. Sorry for misunderstanding.
 
   
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(13) Posted by Andrey Selivanov [Sunday, Jun 12, 2016 23:04]

Diyan, I once again congratulate you on your wonderful result - a victory in the Olympic competition!
 
 
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