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MatPlus.Net Forum General Edgar Holladay– An American Treasure (1925-2003)
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(1) Posted by Rauf Aliovsadzade [Saturday, Dec 7, 2013 20:32]; edited by Rauf Aliovsadzade [13-12-07]

Edgar Holladay– An American Treasure (1925-2003)
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(2) Posted by Steven Dowd [Sunday, Dec 8, 2013 18:51]

The best thing about little articles like that one is that it encouraged me to look up Holladay's selfmates, which I had not seen many of and there were a lot more than I thought there would be. Some very interesting. Many of his best selfmates are based on simple combinations that are exquisitely executed, for example:

Edgar D. Holladay
2860 Problemnoter 10/1965


(= 5+4 )

1. Dh7+ Ka1 2. Db1+ Kxb1 3. Lh7+ Ka1 4. Lc3+ Sb2 5. Lc2 a4#

That's a really pretty ideal mate, and a nice scuppering of the queen. Really good Sunday morning with your coffee fare.

While looking him up in the PDB, I found P1016053, David Leo Brown, Edgar D. Holladay, The Problemist 1975 where it is noted that the source details come from Brown's book but they are clearly incorrect. Can anyone help with this?
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(3) Posted by Olaf Jenkner [Sunday, Dec 8, 2013 21:51]

Put another queen at c7 and it's a s#7.
Better or worse?
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(4) Posted by Olaf Jenkner [Sunday, Dec 8, 2013 22:17]

Put a third queen at e7 and move the bishop to e6: s#9
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(5) Posted by Diyan Kostadinov [Sunday, Dec 8, 2013 22:19]; edited by Diyan Kostadinov [13-12-08]

Adding of an extra force (wQc7 or even more Qs) just to extend the number of moves is not good idea in my opinion.
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(6) Posted by Olaf Jenkner [Sunday, Dec 8, 2013 22:23]

True, but note that the number of sacrifices is also increased.
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(7) Posted by Diyan Kostadinov [Sunday, Dec 8, 2013 22:26]; edited by Diyan Kostadinov [13-12-08]

This is not enough compensation for the unnatural extra force - the play will be still so schematic.
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(8) Posted by Olaf Jenkner [Sunday, Dec 8, 2013 22:52]

I agree, promoted force is a bad thing.
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(9) Posted by Nikola Predrag [Monday, Dec 9, 2013 01:16]

You can try fairy pieces and conditions, and everything is allowed and "natural" :-)
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(10) Posted by Kevin Begley [Tuesday, Dec 10, 2013 12:54]


I expect you realize that your sarcasm depends upon a poor standard of fairy problem judgement.
But, for those who have not already come to realize this (e.g., newcomers, and the prevailing set of fairy judges), let's be honest: aesthetic disruptions, especially units/conditions manufactured in want of excess, will "eventually" be recognized as "неудача!"
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(11) Posted by Nikola Predrag [Tuesday, Dec 10, 2013 15:07]

The point is to see what is a cause and what is a consequence. There is a dogmatic habit of aesthetic evaluation before seeing the content.
9 Queens can be legally on the board and if their presence makes the content, that might be quite nice.
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(12) Posted by Olaf Jenkner [Tuesday, Dec 10, 2013 18:45]; edited by Olaf Jenkner [13-12-10]

Olaf Jenkner
feenschach 05/2013


(= 10+4 )

Nine queens make the content.
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