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MatPlus.Net Forum General Model mates
 
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(1) Posted by Juraj Lörinc [Sunday, Jul 27, 2008 23:37]

Model mates


I have just found an interesting question at talk page to English Wikipedia page on model mates -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_mate

What is the reason these are called "model" mates?
 
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(2) Posted by Geoff Foster [Monday, Jul 28, 2008 01:57]

When the word "model" is used as an adjective, it means completely suitable for imitation, or exemplary. So "model" is a form of praise, but a higher form of praise would be to describe something as "ideal".
 
 
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(3) Posted by Michael McDowell [Monday, Jul 28, 2008 08:15]

In 1902 the chess columnist of the English newspaper "Southern Weekly News" invited suggestions for a term to replace the cumbersome "pure and economical mate". H.D'O. Bernard came up with "model mate" and the term caught on throughout Britain.

It would be surprising if the Bohemians did not already have a name for such mates.
 
   
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(4) Posted by Juraj Lörinc [Monday, Jul 28, 2008 09:45]

In Czech language (as well as in Slovak) the term is the same: modelový mat (plural modelové maty).
 
   
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(5) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Monday, Jul 28, 2008 10:47]

Same in Germany: Modellmatt.

Dissenting theory: Already in Bohemian times, the
fashion models looked anorexic. This was carried
over to the maximally slimmed *other* mates. :-)

Hauke
 
   
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(6) Posted by Steven Dowd [Monday, Jul 28, 2008 14:37]

Mustermatt vs. Modellmatt...

I once used the term "modellmatt" with one of my German correspondents and he replied, "wenn du Mustermatt meinst, dann ja...." giving me a suspicion that "modell" is not universal...

But who understands Germans, anyway? :)

It also seems that in OTB chess model mate is used to refer to the mating position only, extraneous to other considerations on the board. I've also heard a mate referred to as "clean" in that context, and of course have seen in German "saubere Mattbilder..."
 
   
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(7) Posted by Michael McDowell [Monday, Jul 28, 2008 16:42]

When composers of the English School in the late 19th century referred to “clean” mates they meant pure mates. Even if a mate was both pure and economical it was still referred to as “clean”. The English School considered Bohemian two-movers too insipid, since it is practically impossible to combine strategy with models. They wanted strategy with accuracy, and at least one pure (clean) mate was considered an essential feature of a good two-mover. The Good Companions style more or less killed off the classic English style two-mover, as it is rather difficult to combine complex themes with totally accurate variations and /or pure mates.
 
   
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(8) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 11:18]

@Steven: As always I'm too lazy to look up the Sidler, especially
given that it resides at my home and the Internet connection at
my office, but I dimly remember:

Mustermatt - clean; each flight is covered only once
Modellmatt - economic Mustermatt, no bystanders except K%P

In any case, these are different terms!

Hauke
 
   
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(9) Posted by [Tuesday, Jul 29, 2008 18:35]; edited by [08-07-29]

>As always I'm too lazy to look up the Sidler, [..]

Sidler unfortunately makes no distinction between the two: page 71 has

"Mustermatt -- siehe Modellmatt"

and page 69:

"Modellmatt (auch Mustermatt) -- Mattbilder, bestehend aus einem reinen und einem ökonomischen Matt"

followed by a definition of those two terms.
 
   
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(10) Posted by Thomas Maeder [Wednesday, Jul 30, 2008 16:33]

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Sidler unfortunately makes no distinction between the two

FWIW, Hauke's post is the first time I hear or read about a difference between "Modellmatt" and "Mustermatt".
 
   
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(11) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Thursday, Jul 31, 2008 16:49]

Don't bet on in at the next Günther Jauch show, I'm less than sure :-)

Hauke
 
 
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