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| (1) Posted by Alexander Leontyev [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 04:49] |
Jurmala - 2008
From the agenda of PCCC in Jurmala:
“6. Proposals and business carried forward:
…5. Doping control in PCCC solving competitions (Satkus)”
What analyses will be necessary from solvers? Blood? Urine? Something else?
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| (2) Posted by Harry Fougiaxis [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 08:35] |
I was discussing this issue with some Greek solvers the other day, and we kept wondering where PCCC is going to find the funds from for such a doping control...
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| (3) Posted by Sergiy Didukh [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 09:32] |
Maybe a policeman agreed to borrow his alcohol detector for free? Get ready to breathe!
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| (4) Posted by Juraj Lörinc [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 09:34] |
Punish me for making jokes :-), but I know that e.g. Peter Gvozdjak does almost always have a bar of one specific chocolate brand (Študentská pečať) on his table during solving. I have tried it too, but for me it does not work.
Have to find some other brand... :-)
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| (5) Posted by Dejan Glisić [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 10:50]; edited by Dejan Glisić [08-08-11] |
I did not find any brand of chocolate for myself. So, I was thinking about brain trasplantation... Maybe it works. Of course, the brain transplantation will be possible in deep future, at the same time when PCCC find the money for doping control. (Punish me for making jokes...)
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| (6) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 12:34] |
Essentially, you can't use your pocket computer for solving anymore. :-) Or maybe no breakfast is allowed before solving, who knows what's doping here...
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| (7) Posted by Frank Richter [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 13:04] |
Spinach ...
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| (8) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 13:14] |
9. Future meetings of PCCC and future WCSC (Turkish application, other?)
Hans, would you mind to get a PCCC meeting to Germany?
Who are the turkish composers? I know they organized the ECSC in Antalya, but I can't remember the names. Sorry, please tell me again. :-(
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| (9) Posted by Juraj Lörinc [Monday, Aug 11, 2008 13:58] |
Well, now seriously.
1. PCCC meeting and other issues are slightly off topic for Competitions group, may be this whole might be moved to General group?
2. Hosting WCCC is a matter of demand and offer. PCCC surely would like to choose from multiple serious offers, but if the Turkey is the only offer, well, then despite all geographical shortcomings it would be the only viable option. Organizing WCCC requires huge effort and a lot of resources as perhaps any previous organizer would confirm. Moreover price for WCCC is important issue and seemingly many possible candidatures would suffer from being too expensive.
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| (10) Posted by Eric Huber [Tuesday, Aug 12, 2008 22:59] |
We all joke about doping controls in solving chess competitions, but some people are quite serious about them. It all started in 2001, because FIDE wants chess to be part of the Olympic movement.
People interested in that can read the FIDE anti-doping regulations http://www.fide.com/info/fide-anti-doping-regulations . It's not a joke.
In the present, it seems one can only rely on one's brain and some coffee. People interested in future drugs that may enhance their solving capacities, can read this http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2359 .
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| (11) Posted by Joose Norri [Monday, Aug 18, 2008 17:16] |
Consider the fascinating possibility - indeed a fact, I believe - that composers may also be subject to testing.
This is not a joke. A doctor, who is closely associated with the anti doping agency, stated in an interview that in principle the same rules apply for all competitions of the affiliated federations. He specifically mentioned correspondence chess; I think he meant to admit that it can lead to silly situations, but he certainly did not mean that corr chess is exempt. So I deduce the same goes for composing.
Obviously testing the participants at a congress quick composing tourney is a gimme; in normal tourneys, it gets exciting. The PCCC should consult with FIDE; with their expertise, they will come up with a vigorous and sensible solution, as always.
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| (12) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 12:15] |
In that case, Baumgartners Schiffmann book definitively
belongs on the doping list. Consider it's effect on me:
Before reading - newbie
After reading - world class 2# composer
:-)
Hauke
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| (13) Posted by Thomas Maeder [Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 18:09] |
QUOTE
Baumgartners Schiffmann book
Hmm, do we need gender tests as well? :-)
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| (14) Posted by Sarah Hornecker [Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008 19:48] |
Sure, if one has no gender at all, it is probably an android. :-)
BTW, Gabriel Baumgartner still does biographical research (newest is an article about Yuri Marker) and runs a column in Swirzerland.
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| (15) Posted by Hauke Reddmann [Wednesday, Aug 20, 2008 10:39] |
@Maeder: Well. When I first published in, eh, too lazy too look
it up, my surname "Hauke" as always caused confusion (outside
Northern Germany, nobody seems to know Theodor Storm, except
Fritz Hoffmann) and the editor thought I was a femme.
In the next issue a prompt dementi appeared: "Hauke sent me
a photo, it's no doubt he's male."
Before you now have any hentai thoughts - the photo showed 30 cm of...
beard :-)
Hauke
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| (16) Posted by Dejan Glisić [Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 19:36]; edited by Dejan Glisić [08-08-28] |
Nothing new at Forum!?
Are everybody already on the way to Jurmala (or maybe looking football e.t.c.)?
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| (17) Posted by David Knezevic [Thursday, Aug 28, 2008 21:42] |
As you probably know I will be the director of the WCSC and the Open Solving tourney, and I will give the support to Paz Einat who is in charge of the Solving Show.
I have prepared a little application to ease and speed-up the publication of problems, solutions and results - the link is programmed to pop-up in the menu of this site on Saturday. I will also try to provide the live broadcast of the Solving Show on September 3rd (note that there is a slight possibility that event will be moved to September 4th).
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| (18) Posted by Dejan Glisić [Wednesday, Sep 3, 2008 12:32]; edited by Dejan Glisić [08-09-03] |
It is good to find here all of WCSC problems before the end of competition. But why we have to wait for the results till 10:00 tomorow morning? I want to send report to newspapers but I don't have the results. Now I found at Selivanov's page that Russia is the winner (178 points) and the Germany is the second with the same result. Who is the third? Are this results official? However, thanks Milan for this news and this link!!!
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| (19) Posted by Miodrag Mladenović [Friday, Sep 5, 2008 14:48] |
It looks like Milan ran into some issues with connection. I was able to follow up on the solving show until the semifinals and than during the match for 3-rd place I lost connection. Since then I have not seen any new files on this site. Does anyone knows if there are full results somewhere (final table)? I saw some partial results from different sites and our newspapers but I have not seen complete results of WCSC (individual + team).
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| (20) Posted by Eric Huber [Sunday, Sep 7, 2008 03:05] |
Here are partial results, copied from the congress bulletin:
Team Championship:
1.Russia (178/190 points, 512 minutes)
2.Germany (178, 559')
3.Poland (171, 555')
4.Serbia (168, 529')
5.Great Britain (168, 533')
6.France (166, 590')
7.Finland (162.5, 644')
8.Netherlands (161.5, 605')
9.Ukraine (160, 627')
10.Slovakia (158, 541')
(24 teams)
Individual results:
1.Murdzia (90, 222')
2.Evseev (90, 252')
3.Pfannkuche (89.5, 308')
4.Azhusin (85, 266')
5.Kovacevic (85, 292')
6.Salai jr. (84, 242')
7.Mestel (84, 292')
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9.Podinic (83, 237')
(89 participants)
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